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	<title>Comments on: ask a scatterbrain: managing conflict</title>
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	<description>the unruly darlings of public sociology</description>
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		<title>By: credford</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>credford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very important suggestion: take a look at &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Difficult-Conversations-Discuss-what-Matters/dp/014028852X" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Difficult Conversations&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Douglas Stone, et al. It's at most libraries, I think. The scenario you are talking about could have easily been printed in the book. 

The primary difficulty of applying the information in the book, though, is that you are trying to manage a conflict between two &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; people and the book focuses on conflicts between yourself and others. However, there is some important conflict for you here (having to choose sides), so maybe the book can still help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very important suggestion: take a look at <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Difficult-Conversations-Discuss-what-Matters/dp/014028852X" rel="nofollow"><b>Difficult Conversations</b></a> by Douglas Stone, et al. It&#8217;s at most libraries, I think. The scenario you are talking about could have easily been printed in the book. </p>
<p>The primary difficulty of applying the information in the book, though, is that you are trying to manage a conflict between two <i>other</i> people and the book focuses on conflicts between yourself and others. However, there is some important conflict for you here (having to choose sides), so maybe the book can still help.</p>
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		<title>By: tina</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3226</link>
		<dc:creator>tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many of these questions are so difficult to answer. No doubt the strategies above are useful, but I hate to give tips for how to manage impossible situations. Why does graduate student life have so many impossible situations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many of these questions are so difficult to answer. No doubt the strategies above are useful, but I hate to give tips for how to manage impossible situations. Why does graduate student life have so many impossible situations?</p>
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		<title>By: olderwoman</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3220</link>
		<dc:creator>olderwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes the conflict is between the advisor and someone else, and students and other people can get hurt in these conflicts.  It is one of the serious problems in some departments.  In my own department, the rule is that you are not supposed to take your personal conflicts out on students and we mostly abide by this rule.  But in bad departments, people feel they have the "right" to play out their personal grievances any way they can.  So "talk to your advisor" may or may not solve the problem.  And if it is other crazy people, that won't help.

For ordinary intellectual disagreement (which is REALLY common even when everyone is behaving like a grown up!) the best thing to do is to call a committee meeting so everyone can hear everyone else's opinions and get things thrashed out.  

For the childish behavior that is unfortunately common in some climates, there is really no solution except separating the combatants.  This is one of the things to find out about early in the process, and either avoid bad departments or have a plan early for dealing with the craziness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the conflict is between the advisor and someone else, and students and other people can get hurt in these conflicts.  It is one of the serious problems in some departments.  In my own department, the rule is that you are not supposed to take your personal conflicts out on students and we mostly abide by this rule.  But in bad departments, people feel they have the &#8220;right&#8221; to play out their personal grievances any way they can.  So &#8220;talk to your advisor&#8221; may or may not solve the problem.  And if it is other crazy people, that won&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>For ordinary intellectual disagreement (which is REALLY common even when everyone is behaving like a grown up!) the best thing to do is to call a committee meeting so everyone can hear everyone else&#8217;s opinions and get things thrashed out.  </p>
<p>For the childish behavior that is unfortunately common in some climates, there is really no solution except separating the combatants.  This is one of the things to find out about early in the process, and either avoid bad departments or have a plan early for dealing with the craziness.</p>
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		<title>By: stevphel</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3215</link>
		<dc:creator>stevphel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not wanting to be the voice of despair, but I served on a committee where one member was trying to "punish" a student to get back at another member. The chair was an assistant professor who basically had to leave the university after the conflict because he felt he ruined his chances for tenure (and he wasn't the one being targeted). Oh, and the more senior member resigned in a dramatic walkout right after the dissertation defense. The student got her PhD.

I agree, work with your chair first but be prepared to insist on committee changes if someone is being too difficult. 

Interestingly, in Australia, the PhD is examined by three external referees (one of whom has to be out of the country). This really cuts down on the master-servant aspects of a local committee system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not wanting to be the voice of despair, but I served on a committee where one member was trying to &#8220;punish&#8221; a student to get back at another member. The chair was an assistant professor who basically had to leave the university after the conflict because he felt he ruined his chances for tenure (and he wasn&#8217;t the one being targeted). Oh, and the more senior member resigned in a dramatic walkout right after the dissertation defense. The student got her PhD.</p>
<p>I agree, work with your chair first but be prepared to insist on committee changes if someone is being too difficult. </p>
<p>Interestingly, in Australia, the PhD is examined by three external referees (one of whom has to be out of the country). This really cuts down on the master-servant aspects of a local committee system.</p>
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		<title>By: fabiorojas</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3214</link>
		<dc:creator>fabiorojas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brayden and Sara are on target - the rule of thumb when it comes to diss committees is that the chair rules. In fact, when I work on diss committees, I usually try to make sure my advice is consistent with the chair, even if we have different personal styles. 

Also, I wouldn't underestimate fait accomplait. That is, if you produce a high quality &#38; complete document that makes a good faith effort to satisfy the recommendations of the entire committee, then it's hard for them to really complain and it's easy for a chair to "wrap it up."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brayden and Sara are on target - the rule of thumb when it comes to diss committees is that the chair rules. In fact, when I work on diss committees, I usually try to make sure my advice is consistent with the chair, even if we have different personal styles. </p>
<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t underestimate fait accomplait. That is, if you produce a high quality &amp; complete document that makes a good faith effort to satisfy the recommendations of the entire committee, then it&#8217;s hard for them to really complain and it&#8217;s easy for a chair to &#8220;wrap it up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: brayden</title>
		<link>http://scatter.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/ask-a-scatterbrain-managing-conflict/#comment-3212</link>
		<dc:creator>brayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sara.  Your advisor should step in and resolve this.  Your advisor has a strong interest in seeing your dissertation get completed and is more likely to know what's truly going on with the other two committee members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sara.  Your advisor should step in and resolve this.  Your advisor has a strong interest in seeing your dissertation get completed and is more likely to know what&#8217;s truly going on with the other two committee members.</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd recommend that you ask your advisor for help with this.  Though I've not chaired a dissertation committee, my understanding is that one dimension of the role of "chair" is to adjudicate conflicts amongst committee members.  At the very least, structurally, your advisor is in the better/stronger position to call out the problem and insist on detente that will allow you to move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend that you ask your advisor for help with this.  Though I&#8217;ve not chaired a dissertation committee, my understanding is that one dimension of the role of &#8220;chair&#8221; is to adjudicate conflicts amongst committee members.  At the very least, structurally, your advisor is in the better/stronger position to call out the problem and insist on detente that will allow you to move forward.</p>
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